You still see energy, confidence and a chance to challenge Magyar's rule by Orbán. I see no such outcome at all. There is a popular - and heavy weight - slogan repeated in Budapest now. "It's about time someone tell the remaining Fidesz loyalists what the results of the elections were."
Péter Magyar reminds them every passing hour.
Recent polls by Median show a free fall of Fidesz. The 2,4 million voters you cited, are a matter of the past already. Talking to my learned friends, we see the fate of Fidesz will follow SzDSz, MDF and the other - once leading - political families.
Don't forget, that no legal processes have started yet. The National Bank's scandal with 600 billion "loosing its public character", (stolen)
Szíjjártó's COVID scandal with 350 billion, Rogán's
Golden visa scam, and his
hundreds of millions from his IT security invention ...
and the list is very long.
These guys have a good chance of seeing prison sentences. (Possibly including Orbán)
The dance is just about to start. No comparison with 2002.
I don’t actually disagree with anything uoi say. I should convey better that I’m not arguing that Orbán has momentum, or that 2026 will play out like 2002. The conditions are much worse for him now, especially if Fidesz keeps falling and the legal cases begin properly.
My point was more about instinct than outcome: even in defeat, his first move was to avoid becoming ordinary. He’s scared about fading into the past. But you may be right that the more interesting thing now is how quickly that performance starts to look hollow, which is very quickly indeed.
The dance is just about to start, yes. And maybe for once he won’t be leading it.
Ps: I will write you an email, but would you be interested in a conversation on how you see the new government doing so far, I’d love to pick your brain about it. Thanks!
Peter, please indulge me for just a moment. When the last election in Hungary took place I was inspired to learn more about the country, its history and its people. I am fortunate in that I actually own a set of Encyclopedia Britannicas published in 1952 - long before Orban's reign in Hungary. It is full of information about the long, long history of your country. That's how I started.
I firmly believe in the intelligence and the common sense of the population! While I don't in any way minimize the challenges ahead, I'm confident in your people. (and I do apologize that I've yet to figure out how to add the accents that the language requires. I'm working on it.)
Thank you, Louise. I love the image of you reading about Hungary in a 1952 Encyclopedia Britannica. It says something very generous about your curiosity, and about the fact that Hungary’s story is much longer and deeper than the years most people associate with Orbán.
I also really appreciate your confidence in Hungarians. There are huge challenges ahead, of course, but I think many people are beginning to feel that change is possible again, and that matters.
And please don’t worry about the accents. Hungarian makes everyone work for it.
Fidesz says its reform plan is coming. Trump and Johnson say their Health Insurance plan is "in the works". The check is in the mail. Oops, too late. It got lost!
Péter,
You still see energy, confidence and a chance to challenge Magyar's rule by Orbán. I see no such outcome at all. There is a popular - and heavy weight - slogan repeated in Budapest now. "It's about time someone tell the remaining Fidesz loyalists what the results of the elections were."
Péter Magyar reminds them every passing hour.
Recent polls by Median show a free fall of Fidesz. The 2,4 million voters you cited, are a matter of the past already. Talking to my learned friends, we see the fate of Fidesz will follow SzDSz, MDF and the other - once leading - political families.
Don't forget, that no legal processes have started yet. The National Bank's scandal with 600 billion "loosing its public character", (stolen)
Szíjjártó's COVID scandal with 350 billion, Rogán's
Golden visa scam, and his
hundreds of millions from his IT security invention ...
and the list is very long.
These guys have a good chance of seeing prison sentences. (Possibly including Orbán)
The dance is just about to start. No comparison with 2002.
Thank you, Zsolt! This is a really good pushback.
I don’t actually disagree with anything uoi say. I should convey better that I’m not arguing that Orbán has momentum, or that 2026 will play out like 2002. The conditions are much worse for him now, especially if Fidesz keeps falling and the legal cases begin properly.
My point was more about instinct than outcome: even in defeat, his first move was to avoid becoming ordinary. He’s scared about fading into the past. But you may be right that the more interesting thing now is how quickly that performance starts to look hollow, which is very quickly indeed.
The dance is just about to start, yes. And maybe for once he won’t be leading it.
Ps: I will write you an email, but would you be interested in a conversation on how you see the new government doing so far, I’d love to pick your brain about it. Thanks!
Peter, please indulge me for just a moment. When the last election in Hungary took place I was inspired to learn more about the country, its history and its people. I am fortunate in that I actually own a set of Encyclopedia Britannicas published in 1952 - long before Orban's reign in Hungary. It is full of information about the long, long history of your country. That's how I started.
I firmly believe in the intelligence and the common sense of the population! While I don't in any way minimize the challenges ahead, I'm confident in your people. (and I do apologize that I've yet to figure out how to add the accents that the language requires. I'm working on it.)
Thank you, Louise. I love the image of you reading about Hungary in a 1952 Encyclopedia Britannica. It says something very generous about your curiosity, and about the fact that Hungary’s story is much longer and deeper than the years most people associate with Orbán.
I also really appreciate your confidence in Hungarians. There are huge challenges ahead, of course, but I think many people are beginning to feel that change is possible again, and that matters.
And please don’t worry about the accents. Hungarian makes everyone work for it.
Fidesz says its reform plan is coming. Trump and Johnson say their Health Insurance plan is "in the works". The check is in the mail. Oops, too late. It got lost!